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    MetalMEB
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    Rate my planned competitive team! (OU)

    Post by MetalMEB on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:51 am

    Weavile, Jolly @ Expert Belt
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    Night Slash
    Ice Punch
    Brick Break
    Pursuit

    Swampert, Impish @ Lefties
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk

    Waterfall
    Avalanche
    Earthquake
    Stealth Rock

    ^Was Mixpert, all Physical set suggested by Hooh, and EVs suggest by Hooh as well.

    Azelf, Timid @ Expert Belt
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Sp atk / 252 Spe

    Nasty Plot
    Grass Knot
    Thunderbolt
    Psychic

    Salamence- Mild/Rash - Life Orb
    EVs: 120 Atk / 252 Sp. atk / 136 Spe
    Brick Break
    Draco Meteor
    Fire Blast / Flamethrower
    Dragon Claw

    ^Suggested by Hooh.

    Blissey, Bold @ Lefties
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp. Atk

    Seismic Toss
    Ice Beam
    T-Wave
    Softboiled

    ^ EVs suggested by Hooh.

    Forretress, Relaxed @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk

    Explosion
    Rapid Spin
    Spikes
    Gyro Ball

    ^ EVs suggested by Hooh



    So yeah, I don't have ANY of these Pokemon yet... And I'm in the very beginning of FireRed, so getting Seismic Toss Blissey's gonna take me a while...

    So feel free to make changes if you like. Just tell me what you think.

    Make comments, any help is appreciated.


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    Re: Rate my planned competitive team! (OU)

    Post by Angelo-kun on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:57 am

    Hmm not bad, half of this team consists of my team lol. Mence grr, the team looks good.
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    Post by MetalMEB on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:59 am

    LOL. Thanks Angelo. Cool
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    Post by Hooh4ever on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:02 am

    Hey, Lol. The team I suggested. ^^ It's perfect, just like my old team. =D
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    Post by Angelo-kun on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:40 pm

    I just realized that your team has no real gyrados counter, i would suggest replacing either grassknot, or flamethrower for thunderbolt, even after dd from gyra you should be faster aslong as its a bulky dos. Also if your still afraid of gyrados incase azelf were to die, stonedge on swampert isnt a bad choice either.
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    Post by Hooh4ever on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:42 pm

    Angelo23 wrote:I just realized that your team has no real gyrados counter, i would suggest replacing either grassknot, or flamethrower for thunderbolt, even after dd from gyra you should be faster aslong as its a bulky dos. Also if your still afraid of gyrados incase azelf were to die, stonedge on swampert isnt a bad choice either.


    That is kind of true. That is actually why I lost most of my battles, from Gyarados. I had no Gyarados counter.
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    Post by Evilspud591 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:43 pm

    azelf copier! and where'd you get a timid azelf...And will swept my team at one time since i had no gyrados counter
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    Post by MetalMEB on Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:36 pm

    Angelo23 wrote:I just realized that your team has no real gyrados counter, i would suggest replacing either grassknot, or flamethrower for thunderbolt, even after dd from gyra you should be faster aslong as its a bulky dos. Also if your still afraid of gyrados incase azelf were to die, stonedge on swampert isnt a bad choice either.
    I think I'll replace Flamethrower on Azelf. Thanks guys. Cool


    Does anyone else see any other weaknesses?
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    Post by Angelo-kun on Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:41 am

    Wouldnt hurt to make weavile Choice Banded by the way, it does serious damage. And make him your starter, weavile okos gengar, azelf, alakazam etc with pursuit even if they stay in with choice band, even starmie has a 70% of dying if it stays in on a pursuit, and thats only if its a bulky starmie, most arent. That was you have more room to sweep, and if your going choice banded an okay opion is ice shard, preferably i like ice punch, but ice shard okos all dragons and does about 75% to aerodactly, who is faster then you, and if aero comes in on SR its a solid oko.
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    Post by MetalMEB on Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:38 am

    Meh... I don't really want any Choice users on my team. But I will make Weavile lead. So... *edits*

    Thanks! Anyone else have any advice?
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    Post by Hiro1786 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:56 am

    Yes, I have alot of advice, that swampert is Crap, dont listen to hooh about perts. Phsyical pert is EASILY walled and thats why special is prefered. Also, dont max his defense, he can either run half sp def and def, or alot of def and some sp attack/spdef. Swampert, forteress blissey combo is really good, I kinda made it.



    You're not running so hot in the special department. Once bliss dies Scarfgengar litterally analy rapes that team meatspin style. So, invest some more evs in sp def on pert. OR gogogogogogo calm mind bliss.


    Thats all I can think of at the momment. Any questions?
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    Post by Hooh4ever on Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:58 am

    Lol, Hiro just said that because he runs a MixPert in his team.


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    Post by Hiro1786 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:09 am

    The only time you use "he/s" , you use it wrong. >_> And not only that, its effective. And his team is greatly smiliar to mine. but IMO, mines are better.
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    Post by MetalMEB on Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:20 am

    Uh... Thanks. I already have a Relaxed Swampert, so I think I'll just go ahead and run the Mixpert set. (Sorry Hooh =P)


    Uhh... Can you give me numbers on Swampert's EV spreads...? I'm not good at making up EV spreads. (I'm still kind of a newbie in that area)
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    Post by Hiro1786 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:31 am

    well, i run max hp, and like 240 def or something, but its kinda too much def imo, i should fix it, just not enough time. but, yeah, max hp and however much def you feel you need. then throw the rest in sp def/sp attack.... or go the lazy way and check smogon or this site: http://www.libelldra.com/competitive/analyses/

    kinda like smogon, but has more info on the sets.
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    Post by MetalMEB on Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:38 am

    Alright... Thanks. Anything else?

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